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	<title>Comments on: How much value do you get out of listing on Craigslist?</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Christopher</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had more than a little luck using craigslist.  I find buyers for my houses frequently and even use it to buy electronics and household items.  I love craisglist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had more than a little luck using craigslist.  I find buyers for my houses frequently and even use it to buy electronics and household items.  I love craisglist!</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing for Real Estate &#187; Tracking print advertising with ListingNumber and Google Analytics</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing for Real Estate &#187; Tracking print advertising with ListingNumber and Google Analytics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tip to Dustin for mentioning Listing Number at Inman Connect [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tip to Dustin for mentioning Listing Number at Inman Connect [...]</p>
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		<title>By: listingnumber.com - Michael Rahmn</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator>listingnumber.com - Michael Rahmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I would argue you can now measure offline as well. 

Consumers are going to do one of two things if they see an ad offline that interests them: call or look it up on line.

A basic assumption of listingnumber is that if you give them a direct url to all the data/photos, they will take the path of least resistance and go there - giving you the ability to measure it.

When I was webmaster for a large real estate company, we got an unbelievable number of emails from the public trying (in vein) to find a specific listing on the site from the (little) information in print ads. Lightbulb! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I would argue you can now measure offline as well. </p>
<p>Consumers are going to do one of two things if they see an ad offline that interests them: call or look it up on line.</p>
<p>A basic assumption of listingnumber is that if you give them a direct url to all the data/photos, they will take the path of least resistance and go there &#8211; giving you the ability to measure it.</p>
<p>When I was webmaster for a large real estate company, we got an unbelievable number of emails from the public trying (in vein) to find a specific listing on the site from the (little) information in print ads. Lightbulb! <img src='http://4realz.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2602</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph and Ed:  You both touched on one of my favorite parts of online marketing... the fact that we *can* measure results so much more effectively than with off-line marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph and Ed:  You both touched on one of my favorite parts of online marketing&#8230; the fact that we *can* measure results so much more effectively than with off-line marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2601</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this sounds obvious, but you wouldn&#039;t know it talking to a lot of real estate brokers: It&#039;s easier to get someone to click from one website to another than to set down a newspaper, go to a computer, and visit a website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this sounds obvious, but you wouldn&#8217;t know it talking to a lot of real estate brokers: It&#8217;s easier to get someone to click from one website to another than to set down a newspaper, go to a computer, and visit a website.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Bridges</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracking numbers is extremely important and tracking results will lead agents to focusing on what is working (hopefully). The issue in one of the MLS systems here in Los Angeles has been agents are putting properties that aren&#039;t theirs in craigs list which is of course a direct violation of rules. I think it is a great think to track numbers and look forward to seeing long term results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracking numbers is extremely important and tracking results will lead agents to focusing on what is working (hopefully). The issue in one of the MLS systems here in Los Angeles has been agents are putting properties that aren&#8217;t theirs in craigs list which is of course a direct violation of rules. I think it is a great think to track numbers and look forward to seeing long term results.</p>
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		<title>By: listingnumber.com - Michael Rahmn</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>listingnumber.com - Michael Rahmn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unfortunately, the assumption that “hits” are everything, might lead an agent astray when it comes to showing ROI.&quot;

Agreed. I don&#039;t think we have enough evidence yet to make the case that craiglist offers a better ROI in the sense of tracking from initial visit all the way through to closing. 

&quot;A sign might not drive traffic to your website, but it certainly will help sell a house and it will build your brand in the “hyper-location” (neighborhood) where you need it.&quot;

Good point. Most marketing studies show that people driving around the neighborhood is still in the top 3 ways they found the house they eventually purchased. I certainly wouldn&#039;t advocate dumping the sign because the traffic to the site isn&#039;t as significant as other mediums. 

In this case I think the numbers are interesting because they help us get a better grasp of the consumers behavior. For example are folks who see a sign more likely to visit a website for followup information, or is that unnecessary because they&#039;ve already seen the exterior of the home, have a flyer with the facts (presumably your sign box is full :-), and thus the only actions likely are: (1) do nothing (not interested) or (2) call their/the agent for a showing.

I&#039;m fascinated with putting numbers on the process from start to finish so agents can make better decisions about where to spend their time and money and would be the last to advocate making major shifts based on one set of numbers. That said, get started collecting *some* numbers. Most don&#039;t do any tracking at all (which is why the industry still spends 90% of it&#039;s advertising budget in the newspaper).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, the assumption that “hits” are everything, might lead an agent astray when it comes to showing ROI.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. I don&#8217;t think we have enough evidence yet to make the case that craiglist offers a better ROI in the sense of tracking from initial visit all the way through to closing. </p>
<p>&#8220;A sign might not drive traffic to your website, but it certainly will help sell a house and it will build your brand in the “hyper-location” (neighborhood) where you need it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point. Most marketing studies show that people driving around the neighborhood is still in the top 3 ways they found the house they eventually purchased. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t advocate dumping the sign because the traffic to the site isn&#8217;t as significant as other mediums. </p>
<p>In this case I think the numbers are interesting because they help us get a better grasp of the consumers behavior. For example are folks who see a sign more likely to visit a website for followup information, or is that unnecessary because they&#8217;ve already seen the exterior of the home, have a flyer with the facts (presumably your sign box is full <img src='http://4realz.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , and thus the only actions likely are: (1) do nothing (not interested) or (2) call their/the agent for a showing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fascinated with putting numbers on the process from start to finish so agents can make better decisions about where to spend their time and money and would be the last to advocate making major shifts based on one set of numbers. That said, get started collecting *some* numbers. Most don&#8217;t do any tracking at all (which is why the industry still spends 90% of it&#8217;s advertising budget in the newspaper).</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Ethridge</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2582</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Ethridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you - this looks like it may be an excellent way to track information for my sellers.  I&#039;m definitely going to give it a try.  Thanks again for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you &#8211; this looks like it may be an excellent way to track information for my sellers.  I&#8217;m definitely going to give it a try.  Thanks again for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leavenworth real estate - Geordie Romer</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>Leavenworth real estate - Geordie Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ListingNumber does seem to be an interesting tool and I appreciate the idea of putting all ad sources in one place to make tracking easier.

Unfortunately, the assumption that &quot;hits&quot; are everything, might lead an agent astray when it comes to showing ROI.

Obviously, the more important metrics are closed sales or their precursor - showings.

Craigslist has always been good to me when I need to generate hits. I put an ad on Craigslist with a link to a virtual tour and people click on it.

Unfortunately, I haven&#039;t seen reliable results in respect to increased showings or sales. Also, craigslist seems to attract the DYI bargain-hunters, which is great for a few of out lower priced homes, but not the majority of the upper end vacation or luxury homes that I sell.

A sign might not drive traffic to your website, but it certainly will help sell a house and it will build your brand in the &quot;hyper-location&quot; (neighborhood) where you need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ListingNumber does seem to be an interesting tool and I appreciate the idea of putting all ad sources in one place to make tracking easier.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the assumption that &#8220;hits&#8221; are everything, might lead an agent astray when it comes to showing ROI.</p>
<p>Obviously, the more important metrics are closed sales or their precursor &#8211; showings.</p>
<p>Craigslist has always been good to me when I need to generate hits. I put an ad on Craigslist with a link to a virtual tour and people click on it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I haven&#8217;t seen reliable results in respect to increased showings or sales. Also, craigslist seems to attract the DYI bargain-hunters, which is great for a few of out lower priced homes, but not the majority of the upper end vacation or luxury homes that I sell.</p>
<p>A sign might not drive traffic to your website, but it certainly will help sell a house and it will build your brand in the &#8220;hyper-location&#8221; (neighborhood) where you need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Bernheisel</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/08/how-much-value-do-you-get-out-of-listing-on-craigslist/#comment-2579</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Bernheisel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it&#039;s also relative to a site that gets 12 billion hits in a month, which I&#039;m still blown away by...  But, this definitely puts it into perspective for everyone.

-Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it&#8217;s also relative to a site that gets 12 billion hits in a month, which I&#8217;m still blown away by&#8230;  But, this definitely puts it into perspective for everyone.</p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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