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	<title>Comments on: How much lower can Move go?</title>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3335</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, the market is killing everybody. As of today, Move has actually done better YTD than Apple &amp; Google (in terms of percentage loss in their respective stock prices). 

Even more shocking, the company Market Leader (formerly known as HouseValues) has outperformed all of the above companies.

Move will bounce back, especially if Trulia &amp; Zillow don&#039;t become profitable before their money runs out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, the market is killing everybody. As of today, Move has actually done better YTD than Apple &amp; Google (in terms of percentage loss in their respective stock prices). </p>
<p>Even more shocking, the company Market Leader (formerly known as HouseValues) has outperformed all of the above companies.</p>
<p>Move will bounce back, especially if Trulia &amp; Zillow don&#8217;t become profitable before their money runs out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Valento - Long Beach Ca Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Valento - Long Beach Ca Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we can all pitch in and buy Move?  Reorganize it.  Perhaps you can add a Donations button to this post to raise money to buy them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we can all pitch in and buy Move?  Reorganize it.  Perhaps you can add a Donations button to this post to raise money to buy them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: kravtee</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>kravtee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real 989 patent case has not been settled and no judgement has been made yet.  The 989 patent case is much larger and more extensive than the one mentioned by the OP.  

989 not only implicates Move but also NAR, RE/MAX, Realogy, the NHBA, and a host of other large corporations and individual agents.   

A patent is a patent........If I created something and was awarded a patent by the US government (no matter if you think it is legit or not the gov considered it legit when they awarded the patent) I would want the right to get paid if I felt my patent was stolen.  

The question isn&#039;t whether the patent is valid rather if the companies listed infringed.  Part of the defense was patent validity but the judges already threw that defense out from what I understand.

Interesting stuff IMHO.  Would I be surprised if those large corporations did so?  Given their recent history of corruption, it would not surprise me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real 989 patent case has not been settled and no judgement has been made yet.  The 989 patent case is much larger and more extensive than the one mentioned by the OP.  </p>
<p>989 not only implicates Move but also NAR, RE/MAX, Realogy, the NHBA, and a host of other large corporations and individual agents.   </p>
<p>A patent is a patent&#8230;&#8230;..If I created something and was awarded a patent by the US government (no matter if you think it is legit or not the gov considered it legit when they awarded the patent) I would want the right to get paid if I felt my patent was stolen.  </p>
<p>The question isn&#8217;t whether the patent is valid rather if the companies listed infringed.  Part of the defense was patent validity but the judges already threw that defense out from what I understand.</p>
<p>Interesting stuff IMHO.  Would I be surprised if those large corporations did so?  Given their recent history of corruption, it would not surprise me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Time to Call My Stockbroker: Buy MOVE! &#171; The Notorious R.O.B.</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3300</link>
		<dc:creator>Time to Call My Stockbroker: Buy MOVE! &#171; The Notorious R.O.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what is an unusually long post for him, Dustin Luther laments the current state of Move&#8217;s stock: When I started at Move in May ‘06, the stock (and my options) was priced at slightly above $6.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what is an unusually long post for him, Dustin Luther laments the current state of Move&#8217;s stock: When I started at Move in May ‘06, the stock (and my options) was priced at slightly above $6.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3295</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: Don&#039;t know enough about realogy, but the Notorious Rob recently made a great case for them being fine in the long run...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: Don&#8217;t know enough about realogy, but the Notorious Rob recently made a great case for them being fine in the long run&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure... best place is to head over to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://4realz.net/hotlist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;4realz hotlist&lt;/a&gt; where you can post just about anything you like.   I moderate new users, but only until folks get the hang of using the tool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure&#8230; best place is to head over to the <a href="http://4realz.net/hotlist/" rel="nofollow">4realz hotlist</a> where you can post just about anything you like.   I moderate new users, but only until folks get the hang of using the tool!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Valento - Long Beach CA Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Valento - Long Beach CA Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you know Dustin....is there a place to post topic questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you know Dustin&#8230;.is there a place to post topic questions?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Tomlinson-Miami Beach Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3292</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Tomlinson-Miami Beach Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lower the  better.  Let&#039;s get it back in our own hands.

Hey, do you think Realogy will make it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lower the  better.  Let&#8217;s get it back in our own hands.</p>
<p>Hey, do you think Realogy will make it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3291</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay:  You make a great point... I was just teasing you a bit with my question.   Of course REALTORS should be the local expert and while I *could* make an argument for the opposite case, in general, I agree that the listings of all agents collectively are more valuable to realtor.com than the value of realtor.com to any one agent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:  You make a great point&#8230; I was just teasing you a bit with my question.   Of course REALTORS should be the local expert and while I *could* make an argument for the opposite case, in general, I agree that the listings of all agents collectively are more valuable to realtor.com than the value of realtor.com to any one agent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Valento - Long Beach Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/11/how-much-lower-can-move-go/#comment-3290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Valento - Long Beach Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Most of my clients don&#039;t go to Realtor.com for anything.  I have found listings on Realtor.com that are a year old...I am a little confused...I list a house.  Realtor.com posts it on their website for free.  Then, they turn around and ask me to pay for advertising....shouldn&#039;t they be paying me for the opportunity to display my listing to their audience?  It is quite crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Most of my clients don&#8217;t go to Realtor.com for anything.  I have found listings on Realtor.com that are a year old&#8230;I am a little confused&#8230;I list a house.  Realtor.com posts it on their website for free.  Then, they turn around and ask me to pay for advertising&#8230;.shouldn&#8217;t they be paying me for the opportunity to display my listing to their audience?  It is quite crazy.</p>
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