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		<title>By: Susie Blackmon</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-4391</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie Blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bleh re Facebook. I am on it, but to me it&#039;s for finding old friends.
Twitter is my drug of choice. I&#039;m known on Twitter for my passion for horses and Cowboys -- which gave me the wake-up call that my lack of passion/respect for RE, per se, was obvious. Let &#039;er buck baby. Twitter is a gold mine of knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleh re Facebook. I am on it, but to me it&#8217;s for finding old friends.<br />
Twitter is my drug of choice. I&#8217;m known on Twitter for my passion for horses and Cowboys &#8212; which gave me the wake-up call that my lack of passion/respect for RE, per se, was obvious. Let &#8216;er buck baby. Twitter is a gold mine of knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Buenos Aires Neighborhoods</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3573</link>
		<dc:creator>Buenos Aires Neighborhoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the two links George, helps a lot to clarify some points that I had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the two links George, helps a lot to clarify some points that I had.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3555</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s that but let&#039;s not forget basic common sense. Post when you have something to offer that brings benefit to those following you and check periodically during the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s that but let&#8217;s not forget basic common sense. Post when you have something to offer that brings benefit to those following you and check periodically during the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3554</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly my point all along. It&#039;s not as simple as just posting arbitrary shout outs of what you&#039;re doing to friends. With all due respect to Dustin, that&#039;s my trouble with his trouble to my approach. I believe this, like any powerful public medium, a strategy is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly my point all along. It&#8217;s not as simple as just posting arbitrary shout outs of what you&#8217;re doing to friends. With all due respect to Dustin, that&#8217;s my trouble with his trouble to my approach. I believe this, like any powerful public medium, a strategy is required.</p>
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		<title>By: Geordie Romer</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>Geordie Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.mytechopinion.com/2008/11/organize-chaos-with-the-real-estate-tweet-plan.html

and

www.twitip.com

That should answer most of your questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mytechopinion.com/2008/11/organize-chaos-with-the-real-estate-tweet-plan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mytechopinion.com/2008/11/organize-chaos-with-the-real-estate-tweet-plan.html</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitip.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitip.com</a></p>
<p>That should answer most of your questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Johnson</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3552</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know of a step-by-step &quot;guide&quot; to using twitter for real estate most effectively?

Or do you have to grap tips and tricks here and there? 

My point is, advising agents to embark on this without some kind of guidance is not very good advise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know of a step-by-step &#8220;guide&#8221; to using twitter for real estate most effectively?</p>
<p>Or do you have to grap tips and tricks here and there? </p>
<p>My point is, advising agents to embark on this without some kind of guidance is not very good advise?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3537</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. Same here. I believe Twitter to be an uber powerful tool. But I also believe, that when it comes to doing anything publicly, tools like this, while powerful, can also be somewhat dangerous if done wrong. Is is so fool-hearty of me to think that taking charge of your own imaging and branding without a fundamental knowledge of this discipline is risky?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. Same here. I believe Twitter to be an uber powerful tool. But I also believe, that when it comes to doing anything publicly, tools like this, while powerful, can also be somewhat dangerous if done wrong. Is is so fool-hearty of me to think that taking charge of your own imaging and branding without a fundamental knowledge of this discipline is risky?</p>
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		<title>By: Geordie Romer</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3536</link>
		<dc:creator>Geordie Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to Marc to staying engaged in this conversation!

I comment because I care. 

I enjoy reading everything that you and Dustin bring to the table and I think this discussion has helped us all grow.

I look forward to the ongoing discussion of  :

*Appropriate us of Twitter for business
*How use to Twitter to brand your self
* How to use Twitter to connect IRL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo to Marc to staying engaged in this conversation!</p>
<p>I comment because I care. </p>
<p>I enjoy reading everything that you and Dustin bring to the table and I think this discussion has helped us all grow.</p>
<p>I look forward to the ongoing discussion of  :</p>
<p>*Appropriate us of Twitter for business<br />
*How use to Twitter to brand your self<br />
* How to use Twitter to connect IRL</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Zimmerman</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3468</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, I&#039;ll join you here from your twitter post and add a big heaping shovel full of an even bigger question this whole conversation begs me to ask...

It&#039;s a bit dangerous to post here.

I know this may shock you and the others who know me and think of me as &quot;techguy&quot; of sorts. But I&#039;m probably be better categorized as more of a RE &quot;pragmaticist&quot; and &quot;researcher&quot; and after you read this you&#039;ll probably call me a &quot;antagonist&quot; and &quot;contrarian&quot; AND possibly a &quot;HERETIC&quot;...

So the heaping question is, &quot;what&#039;s the yield?&quot;
$$$/month, week, year?

This question may look innocuous, but by delving deeper, it will start to pull and challenge the roots of the RE tech community (sorry).

With a degree in Finance and a background in Economics, I know with all options being equal (efficient market theory), an investor will pick the vehicle with highest return with the shortest payback period.

-So-

Replace the word &quot;investor&quot; with &quot;REALTOR&quot;, &quot;vehicle&quot; with &quot;marketing strategies&quot; and assume EMT (efficient market theory) means that the agent is fully aware of his/her options to choose what marketing will work the best.

Now the question is, who is making more money?

Blogger/Social Media Maven v. FSBO/Expired Listing Leader/Cold Call Cowboy?

After spending the last 13 months chest deep interviewing over 50 top coaches, speakers and agents in the world, I&#039;ve found that every single case of &quot;million dollar babies&quot; and &quot;super producers&quot;, agents who make over $500,000 a year NET to the bottom line, do so on an almost pure blend of Active Prospecting using telephone and mail.

They are not substantively twittering or blogging with any real &quot;conversation&quot; intentions.

-and since-

TIME is the ultimate in limited resources and the only true fixed variable to measure success; leads/day, appointments/week, $$$/month, I&#039;m throwing this next statement out as subject for debate and evolution...

What do you think is the optimum blend of time is spent generating business?

How is your day scheduled?

What tasks and actions are they comprised of?

Who is really rocking it with the SM? Define rocking it.

Has anyone tracked, tested, or case studied this before?

It would be very interesting to study the best of breeds from both camps and see who has more money at the end of the month, quarter, year.

From my own experience in launching an enrichment based educational web service to agents, at the end of the day, they want more money in their bank accounts, (give me ROI or give me my money back).

Kind of like &quot;give me liberty or give me death&quot;, but not as harsh.

A corollary thought, after learning what works best from each side take the &quot;best of breeds&quot; from each &quot;skool of thought&quot; and create a hybrid model of the modern real estate success. Could sound something like -The Ultimate System to Modern RE Dominance-

Well I hope I&#039;ve made some good points, looking forward to feedback (no rotten tomatoes) and if you would like to share the numbers behind your yield, I&#039;d love to interview you!

Warmly,
Justin Zimmerman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, I&#8217;ll join you here from your twitter post and add a big heaping shovel full of an even bigger question this whole conversation begs me to ask&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit dangerous to post here.</p>
<p>I know this may shock you and the others who know me and think of me as &#8220;techguy&#8221; of sorts. But I&#8217;m probably be better categorized as more of a RE &#8220;pragmaticist&#8221; and &#8220;researcher&#8221; and after you read this you&#8217;ll probably call me a &#8220;antagonist&#8221; and &#8220;contrarian&#8221; AND possibly a &#8220;HERETIC&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>So the heaping question is, &#8220;what&#8217;s the yield?&#8221;<br />
$$$/month, week, year?</p>
<p>This question may look innocuous, but by delving deeper, it will start to pull and challenge the roots of the RE tech community (sorry).</p>
<p>With a degree in Finance and a background in Economics, I know with all options being equal (efficient market theory), an investor will pick the vehicle with highest return with the shortest payback period.</p>
<p>-So-</p>
<p>Replace the word &#8220;investor&#8221; with &#8220;REALTOR&#8221;, &#8220;vehicle&#8221; with &#8220;marketing strategies&#8221; and assume EMT (efficient market theory) means that the agent is fully aware of his/her options to choose what marketing will work the best.</p>
<p>Now the question is, who is making more money?</p>
<p>Blogger/Social Media Maven v. FSBO/Expired Listing Leader/Cold Call Cowboy?</p>
<p>After spending the last 13 months chest deep interviewing over 50 top coaches, speakers and agents in the world, I&#8217;ve found that every single case of &#8220;million dollar babies&#8221; and &#8220;super producers&#8221;, agents who make over $500,000 a year NET to the bottom line, do so on an almost pure blend of Active Prospecting using telephone and mail.</p>
<p>They are not substantively twittering or blogging with any real &#8220;conversation&#8221; intentions.</p>
<p>-and since-</p>
<p>TIME is the ultimate in limited resources and the only true fixed variable to measure success; leads/day, appointments/week, $$$/month, I&#8217;m throwing this next statement out as subject for debate and evolution&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you think is the optimum blend of time is spent generating business?</p>
<p>How is your day scheduled?</p>
<p>What tasks and actions are they comprised of?</p>
<p>Who is really rocking it with the SM? Define rocking it.</p>
<p>Has anyone tracked, tested, or case studied this before?</p>
<p>It would be very interesting to study the best of breeds from both camps and see who has more money at the end of the month, quarter, year.</p>
<p>From my own experience in launching an enrichment based educational web service to agents, at the end of the day, they want more money in their bank accounts, (give me ROI or give me my money back).</p>
<p>Kind of like &#8220;give me liberty or give me death&#8221;, but not as harsh.</p>
<p>A corollary thought, after learning what works best from each side take the &#8220;best of breeds&#8221; from each &#8220;skool of thought&#8221; and create a hybrid model of the modern real estate success. Could sound something like -The Ultimate System to Modern RE Dominance-</p>
<p>Well I hope I&#8217;ve made some good points, looking forward to feedback (no rotten tomatoes) and if you would like to share the numbers behind your yield, I&#8217;d love to interview you!</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Justin Zimmerman</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2008/12/the-trouble-with-marcs-approach-to-twitter/#comment-3464</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Building a personal brand no matter how you do it, no matter what medium you use, using the proper mechanics of good brand building is critical. 

Just because the web has now provided tools to build brand through self publishing, posting, anything, anytime, won&#039;t necessarily accomplish this. Your name might be more recognizable to more people but it won&#039;t build your brand. 

A brand has to be tied to something that people can anchor to. 

Honda - Tied to mechanically sound engineering. 
Apple - Tied to flawless design. 
W Hotel - Tied to a wonderland hotel experience. 
Zappos - Tied to relentless service. 
UPS - Tied to prompt, dependable delivery. 
Wav Group - Tied to helping real estate firms understand its market and its brand position within through research, analysis and published reports. 
1000watt - Tied to helping brokerages and media companies navigating the complexities of web 2.0, branding and communication. 

Proper branding means that everything these brands do should act as a touchpoint to their meaning. The better each touchpoint conveys their meaning, the better the brand. 

What are you tied too? Do you know? And if you, are you managing each and every touchpoint which includes every post, comment, tweet, etc.  

Real estate has been taught to blast the neighborhood with flyers, bus stop bench posters, shopping cart ads and template websites filled with forms and bio&#039;s and Hobbs Herder glossy tri-folds showing agents as humans. And through it all, why do people get toungue tied trying to voice the difference between most agents? 

Twittering the things you do is cool. Don&#039;t stop. But I advice trying to tie to something that also supports what you stand for. 

Earlier today, I Twittered about U2 and their upcoming release and the marketing techniques they are employing that I find brilliant and the tie ins I see for real estate. I feel that type of post support my brand, both personal and professional. 

So here is an example for you guys. 

Suppose your agent brand position is tied to -  representing local real estate through up-to-date, instant  market centric information, consultation and hyper local knowledge and service.  

Which post supports that brand better? 

a) Stuck in traffic, boring. Wish I could beam myself places. 

b) Stuck in traffic sucking on a swizzle stick listening to Sweet Thing on the Country Music Channel. 

c) Stuck in traffic and just learned a local developer was granted permission to build condo complex downtown. K&#039;ching. Reaching out to clients right now. 

If you could prudently, skillfully, apply your efforts into really building up a brand based on simple, proven brand formulas, imagine how much more successful you would be?
  
 Over the holidays, write down a statement that defines your brand. Then look over the bulk of your past Twitters and see if what you&#039;ve posted supports your definition of yourself. If it does, bang on. You are doing it right.  

Some leeway is acceptable. But the more you pay heed to connecting these dots, the more your worth and value will be better communicated. You will see an increase in readership. And business. 

I stake my career on this. 

And, thanks much to Dustin for his original post and allowing us to educate each other here on his blog. 

Marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building a personal brand no matter how you do it, no matter what medium you use, using the proper mechanics of good brand building is critical. </p>
<p>Just because the web has now provided tools to build brand through self publishing, posting, anything, anytime, won&#8217;t necessarily accomplish this. Your name might be more recognizable to more people but it won&#8217;t build your brand. </p>
<p>A brand has to be tied to something that people can anchor to. </p>
<p>Honda &#8211; Tied to mechanically sound engineering.<br />
Apple &#8211; Tied to flawless design.<br />
W Hotel &#8211; Tied to a wonderland hotel experience.<br />
Zappos &#8211; Tied to relentless service.<br />
UPS &#8211; Tied to prompt, dependable delivery.<br />
Wav Group &#8211; Tied to helping real estate firms understand its market and its brand position within through research, analysis and published reports.<br />
1000watt &#8211; Tied to helping brokerages and media companies navigating the complexities of web 2.0, branding and communication. </p>
<p>Proper branding means that everything these brands do should act as a touchpoint to their meaning. The better each touchpoint conveys their meaning, the better the brand. </p>
<p>What are you tied too? Do you know? And if you, are you managing each and every touchpoint which includes every post, comment, tweet, etc.  </p>
<p>Real estate has been taught to blast the neighborhood with flyers, bus stop bench posters, shopping cart ads and template websites filled with forms and bio&#8217;s and Hobbs Herder glossy tri-folds showing agents as humans. And through it all, why do people get toungue tied trying to voice the difference between most agents? </p>
<p>Twittering the things you do is cool. Don&#8217;t stop. But I advice trying to tie to something that also supports what you stand for. </p>
<p>Earlier today, I Twittered about U2 and their upcoming release and the marketing techniques they are employing that I find brilliant and the tie ins I see for real estate. I feel that type of post support my brand, both personal and professional. </p>
<p>So here is an example for you guys. </p>
<p>Suppose your agent brand position is tied to &#8211;  representing local real estate through up-to-date, instant  market centric information, consultation and hyper local knowledge and service.  </p>
<p>Which post supports that brand better? </p>
<p>a) Stuck in traffic, boring. Wish I could beam myself places. </p>
<p>b) Stuck in traffic sucking on a swizzle stick listening to Sweet Thing on the Country Music Channel. </p>
<p>c) Stuck in traffic and just learned a local developer was granted permission to build condo complex downtown. K&#8217;ching. Reaching out to clients right now. </p>
<p>If you could prudently, skillfully, apply your efforts into really building up a brand based on simple, proven brand formulas, imagine how much more successful you would be?</p>
<p> Over the holidays, write down a statement that defines your brand. Then look over the bulk of your past Twitters and see if what you&#8217;ve posted supports your definition of yourself. If it does, bang on. You are doing it right.  </p>
<p>Some leeway is acceptable. But the more you pay heed to connecting these dots, the more your worth and value will be better communicated. You will see an increase in readership. And business. </p>
<p>I stake my career on this. </p>
<p>And, thanks much to Dustin for his original post and allowing us to educate each other here on his blog. </p>
<p>Marc</p>
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