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	<title>Comments on: Are there 5 reasons you do NOT want to create a Facebook Business Page?</title>
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		<title>By: krista lombardi</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4475</link>
		<dc:creator>krista lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, this morning I stuumbled across this post by Mike Mueller on his Trulia blog that talks in more detail about ways to handle this.  It is worth checking out if you are struggling with &#8220;business and pleasure&#8221; on Facebook. Struggling with Facebook and Facebook Pages in general?  Check out Dustin&#8217;s post Are there 5 reasons you do NOT want to create a Facebook Business Page? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, this morning I stuumbled across this post by Mike Mueller on his Trulia blog that talks in more detail about ways to handle this.  It is worth checking out if you are struggling with &#8220;business and pleasure&#8221; on Facebook. Struggling with Facebook and Facebook Pages in general?  Check out Dustin&#8217;s post Are there 5 reasons you do NOT want to create a Facebook Business Page? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ferry</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4365</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ferry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin- Interesting perspective. Thanks for putting this info out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin- Interesting perspective. Thanks for putting this info out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Lui</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4109</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Lui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, I&#039;m glad I have a page and a blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post, I&#8217;m glad I have a page and a blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4107</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all the feedback... and so sorry if I haven&#039;t been following up with everyone.   I really have enjoyed getting so much wonderful feedback.

An:  In terms of google, they can definitely crawl the Facebook Pages (while doing nothing special, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=site:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dustin-Luther/56068536934&quot;&gt;google has found 9 of my pages&lt;/a&gt; in the past 2 months)... Nonetheless, if you&#039;re reaching out to your FB community in order to get SEO benefits, you&#039;re probably going to miss out on using facebook where it&#039;s most valuable... i.e. reaching a very targeted audience (i.e. friends of fans).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all the feedback&#8230; and so sorry if I haven&#8217;t been following up with everyone.   I really have enjoyed getting so much wonderful feedback.</p>
<p>An:  In terms of google, they can definitely crawl the Facebook Pages (while doing nothing special, <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dustin-Luther/56068536934">google has found 9 of my pages</a> in the past 2 months)&#8230; Nonetheless, if you&#8217;re reaching out to your FB community in order to get SEO benefits, you&#8217;re probably going to miss out on using facebook where it&#8217;s most valuable&#8230; i.e. reaching a very targeted audience (i.e. friends of fans).</p>
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		<title>By: An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4106</link>
		<dc:creator>An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin, Thanks for focusing us on what Facebook is good for. I know I could spend more time on Facebook and I definitely would if Google could crawl the content on pages. 

That said, thanks for pointing out there&#039;s still value there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, Thanks for focusing us on what Facebook is good for. I know I could spend more time on Facebook and I definitely would if Google could crawl the content on pages. </p>
<p>That said, thanks for pointing out there&#8217;s still value there.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media Blog Carnival – Cinco de Mayo Edition &#124; Nick Bostic</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4097</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media Blog Carnival – Cinco de Mayo Edition &#124; Nick Bostic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Facebook Pages for Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://4realz.net/2009/05/are-there-5-reasons-you-do-not-want-to-create-a-facebook-business-page/#comment-4094</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Pages for Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Heather Elias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 02:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have over 250 fans on my facebook page, and many of them are not &#039;friended up&#039; with me there. Which means, I didn&#039;t ask them to be my fan, they found me on their own. As did many of my local people, past clients, non Realtor types. I can also tell you that I have more people clicking through to read entire blog posts from my fan page and from the Networked Blogs app on facebook than I do via my RSS feed, which is still healthy. What that tells me is that folks are more apt to pay attention to my blog via a social network that they are already visiting several times a day than they are from subscribing to the blog itself. And the facebook links are opt-in, they ask to receive them.

Obviously this is still a very new way to put links, small tidbits, etc in front of people that will appreciate them, but I&#039;m taking an &quot;if it keeps working, I&#039;m going to keep doing it&#039; attitude.

For the record, I invited a few folks when I first set up the page to get the ball rolling, but the vast, vast majority of them found their way there on their own, and clicked &quot;become a fan&quot; without me asking them to do so.

Just my two cents.
~H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have over 250 fans on my facebook page, and many of them are not &#8216;friended up&#8217; with me there. Which means, I didn&#8217;t ask them to be my fan, they found me on their own. As did many of my local people, past clients, non Realtor types. I can also tell you that I have more people clicking through to read entire blog posts from my fan page and from the Networked Blogs app on facebook than I do via my RSS feed, which is still healthy. What that tells me is that folks are more apt to pay attention to my blog via a social network that they are already visiting several times a day than they are from subscribing to the blog itself. And the facebook links are opt-in, they ask to receive them.</p>
<p>Obviously this is still a very new way to put links, small tidbits, etc in front of people that will appreciate them, but I&#8217;m taking an &#8220;if it keeps working, I&#8217;m going to keep doing it&#8217; attitude.</p>
<p>For the record, I invited a few folks when I first set up the page to get the ball rolling, but the vast, vast majority of them found their way there on their own, and clicked &#8220;become a fan&#8221; without me asking them to do so.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.<br />
~H.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Nix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin:  (sorry this is a long response, but one I think worth scanning at a minimum)

I know that as friends. (emphasis on the period) our relationship grows over time, thru communication (even disagreements), and you certainly don&#039;t want me to &#039;market&#039; to you.  I wouldn&#039;t blame you for &#039;hiding&#039; my updates if what I shared was not relative, interesting or valuable.  But if you were going to &#039;hide&#039; my updates as a friend, then you certainly wouldn&#039;t want to sign up for market updates as a &#039;Fan&#039; on my new FB Page.

What I really mean to say is that social networks should be for &#039;network&#039;ing and not marketing, whether it&#039;s a profile or a page.  People don&#039;t join associations, clubs, or real world groups and then go to the weekly or monthly meeting meetings with market updates.  They go as themselves to develop relationships.  Of course, part of who they are is their career and part of &#039;some&#039; of their conversations will be about their job/business, but to have a marketing in a social network just seems counter-productive to the real value of building relationships.

Therefore, in my opinion, real estate agents should not use Facebook (or Twitter, LinkedIn, etc...) as marketing channels, but as networking opportunities.  A chance to learn from others, make new contacts, grow their sphere of influence, and add value to others in the network.  Promote what others are doing, share what is happening in their communities, stand up for causes, raise awareness to issues of concern, be personable and develop true relationships with past clients, old friends, future referral sources, etc...

As for using &#039;pages&#039; on FB, definitely go for it at the company level and perhaps start neighborhood pages for your local markets (because it&#039;s hard to be &#039;friends&#039; with a company or community).  I still say keep your personal business as part of your profile, it is a part of who you are and a great chance to put personality into your personal service brand.  Trying to separate business and personal in a social network would be like joining a softball team and never telling your teammates what happened at work that day or how the local market is doing.  Furthermore, showing up at game time each week with planned market updates would just be silly.

As a true friend, you know I am not trying be a pain.  I think a healthy discourse of pros and cons on using FB Pages for Realtors is worth debating in public.  (and I always reserve the right to be completely wrong)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin:  (sorry this is a long response, but one I think worth scanning at a minimum)</p>
<p>I know that as friends. (emphasis on the period) our relationship grows over time, thru communication (even disagreements), and you certainly don&#8217;t want me to &#8216;market&#8217; to you.  I wouldn&#8217;t blame you for &#8216;hiding&#8217; my updates if what I shared was not relative, interesting or valuable.  But if you were going to &#8216;hide&#8217; my updates as a friend, then you certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to sign up for market updates as a &#8216;Fan&#8217; on my new FB Page.</p>
<p>What I really mean to say is that social networks should be for &#8216;network&#8217;ing and not marketing, whether it&#8217;s a profile or a page.  People don&#8217;t join associations, clubs, or real world groups and then go to the weekly or monthly meeting meetings with market updates.  They go as themselves to develop relationships.  Of course, part of who they are is their career and part of &#8217;some&#8217; of their conversations will be about their job/business, but to have a marketing in a social network just seems counter-productive to the real value of building relationships.</p>
<p>Therefore, in my opinion, real estate agents should not use Facebook (or Twitter, LinkedIn, etc&#8230;) as marketing channels, but as networking opportunities.  A chance to learn from others, make new contacts, grow their sphere of influence, and add value to others in the network.  Promote what others are doing, share what is happening in their communities, stand up for causes, raise awareness to issues of concern, be personable and develop true relationships with past clients, old friends, future referral sources, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>As for using &#8216;pages&#8217; on FB, definitely go for it at the company level and perhaps start neighborhood pages for your local markets (because it&#8217;s hard to be &#8216;friends&#8217; with a company or community).  I still say keep your personal business as part of your profile, it is a part of who you are and a great chance to put personality into your personal service brand.  Trying to separate business and personal in a social network would be like joining a softball team and never telling your teammates what happened at work that day or how the local market is doing.  Furthermore, showing up at game time each week with planned market updates would just be silly.</p>
<p>As a true friend, you know I am not trying be a pain.  I think a healthy discourse of pros and cons on using FB Pages for Realtors is worth debating in public.  (and I always reserve the right to be completely wrong)</p>
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		<title>By: Julissa Jumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julissa Jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking specifically about real estate, as opposed to other businesses, the benefits of touching your &quot;met&quot; database in FB or other social network far outweigh any SE prospecting.  There just is no SEO comparison to the value of being connected personally to clients and potential clients thru friends, fans, and friends-of-friends. You are virtually in front of them every day!  Buying that type of marketing would be hugely expensive.   My goal is to do everything I can to make sure all my former clients, friends, and met database are linked to me. 

I don&#039;t see any compelling reason to have a separate page for my business because so many of my FB friends are already former clients with whom I&#039;ve developed a friendship and so many of my friends know just what I do and that it is a part of my life.  Hopefully I make the content interesting enough that they enjoy it as much as a client does, and hopefully I make it personal enough (but not too much!) that my clients grow more comfortable with me as they get to know me better.

What I enjoyed most about Thursday&#039;s show was the discussion about Static FBML and adding RSS feed and IDX to my FB page.  I think putting these in tabs will be a great way to give my clients and friends resources to use (they are ALL going to be interested in the market or buying/selling a house sometime), brand me as a local market expert, and encourage folks to follow thru with ME as opposed to another realtor.  The IDX on my website gets plenty of users, but I like the conversion chances better for someone who uses it on my FB page.  My  next 2 projects are get my Mueller map posted and get IDX on my FB page.  BTW, can&#039;t I put my Mueller map on my FB page in a tab somewhere?

Thanks for some practical, helpful discussions.  I really enjoy your (all of you) work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking specifically about real estate, as opposed to other businesses, the benefits of touching your &#8220;met&#8221; database in FB or other social network far outweigh any SE prospecting.  There just is no SEO comparison to the value of being connected personally to clients and potential clients thru friends, fans, and friends-of-friends. You are virtually in front of them every day!  Buying that type of marketing would be hugely expensive.   My goal is to do everything I can to make sure all my former clients, friends, and met database are linked to me. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any compelling reason to have a separate page for my business because so many of my FB friends are already former clients with whom I&#8217;ve developed a friendship and so many of my friends know just what I do and that it is a part of my life.  Hopefully I make the content interesting enough that they enjoy it as much as a client does, and hopefully I make it personal enough (but not too much!) that my clients grow more comfortable with me as they get to know me better.</p>
<p>What I enjoyed most about Thursday&#8217;s show was the discussion about Static FBML and adding RSS feed and IDX to my FB page.  I think putting these in tabs will be a great way to give my clients and friends resources to use (they are ALL going to be interested in the market or buying/selling a house sometime), brand me as a local market expert, and encourage folks to follow thru with ME as opposed to another realtor.  The IDX on my website gets plenty of users, but I like the conversion chances better for someone who uses it on my FB page.  My  next 2 projects are get my Mueller map posted and get IDX on my FB page.  BTW, can&#8217;t I put my Mueller map on my FB page in a tab somewhere?</p>
<p>Thanks for some practical, helpful discussions.  I really enjoy your (all of you) work.</p>
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