Join us for a morning tech talk in Northridge on Tuesday
Details about this Doctor’s Note gathering on Upcoming.
Details about this Doctor’s Note gathering on Upcoming.
…a blast. There were so many great insights from so many different people packed into just under an hour. You can listen to the recording here:
[audio http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-20339/TS-122374.mp3.
And thanks again to everyone who participated!
And since we talked so much about social networks, I thought I’d link to some of the places you can find me on the various social networks: LinkedIn, Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, MyDealBook, RealSeekr. And if you’re interested in connecting up with other real estate professionals, feel free to leave links to your social networks in the comments!
…a bathroom, bedroom and closet to match some of my favorite rooms in the 4realz.net house. Someone had to do it.
Only you, Dustin, would do something like this!
ahh… come on. Someone was bound to do it!
I added a private room….you have to be on the guest list to get in
Quite appropriate for someone from NYC!
…using social networking sites like Facebook to generate business.
A HUGE thanks goes out to Jonathan at the Matrix for making the introduction between Stephanie and myself!
Hi D!
Congrats on the mention….Funny, Stephanie emailed me at 6:34pm a couple nights ago for thoughts on the story too asking to talk for 5 minutes that evening and when I emailed shortly thereafter, she never responded. Weird.
Yup, Jonathan is awesome.
Rudy
Social Media Guru at Trulia.com
Dustin Luther, Superstar
Dustin, congrats on the mention in NYT. That is big stuff. I am moving back to California this summer. What is your seminar schedule like? I would like to attend. I see you have one in Pasadena. Anything planned for later in the summer?
Awesome Brian! It’ll be great to have you back in CA!
We’re definitely going to do some more seminars this summer. We’ve been holding off getting too far ahead of ourselves as we wanted to get a better idea of what it takes to put one of these events on successfully. With that said, with two under our belt, we’re feeling MUCH better about our set-up and will almost definitely have an event in Orange County in mid-July! Hopefully we can get you in town then!
Hey Dustin, thanks for linking back! Twitter has been a benefit in so many more ways than just a paycheck – it hasn’t paid anything yet! But the value of relationships formed and knowledge gained has far exceeded any dollars I could ever earn! Hope everyone else finds it to be just as successful!
Jeremy
@NRVLiving
No doubt Jeremy! Twitter is one of those things that we don’t expect much from in terms of clients, so it’s fun to hear of a nice surprise when it works out that someone engaging in the community starts to see some benefit.
Interesting, my friend is a real estate agent but totally tech illiterate. I should turn him onto Twitter though.
…the name) for the real estate space in a month or so… and early marketing material suggest that one of their big selling points is that they are going to start with tons of users because they’ve bought a list from another real estate site (presumably with tons of users). This has me scratching my head on a number of levels.
Can you really start a social network with people who don’t know they’re in it? Would you be upset if you went to a site and they already had an account set up and knew things about you?
I haven’t followed up with them to find out just what they mean when they say they’ve acquired X number of users, but I’m definitely curious. It’s one thing if they simply bought an email list (spammy but common). It’s another thing, if users get to the site and find a LinkedIn-style profile already built for them.
“Would you be upset if you went to a site and they already had an account set up and knew things about you?”
I don’t know if “upset” is the right word. But it does creep me out and just seems wrong on many levels.
Anyone can easily find a great deal of info about me from existing public sites.
But taking that info and placing me into a “social network”?? I don’t get it.
If I found a profile-like thing somewhere that I didn’t put it, my first reaction would be to delete it and never return to that site.
Doesn’t seem like a very prudent way to build a network…
There are probably a lot of vendors with a lot of real estate clients that they could link together and spin off into a social network. (ie. Advanced Access, Inman News, e-Neighborhoods, Point2, etc.)
As far as going to a site and finding out that I was already a member, I don’t even think I would even notice. I sign up for lots of services and sites, don’t go back to them for several months (or years) then eventually click a link to look at them later.
If I ended up in a network that I didn’t sign up for, I probably wouldn’t know the difference!
Sounds link a big waste of money for whomever bought the list and thinks its just going to magically happen.
Next…
I’m with you Jay… It seems pretty obvious to me that social networks require a certain organic growth…
Vicki, I hear you that you might not notice, but I think enough people would that it could leave a bad taste in people’s mouths.
this seems wrong on many levels. does the site that sold the info have no shame?
Part of a social network, in my opinion, is the expectation of a certain level of trust. To start off a new “social” network having violated that trust from the jump seems a bit counter-productive.
Put a real-world angle on this- If you “bought” a bunch of friends, wouldn’t they be less likely want to hang out and build a relationship than those whom you personally cultivated a friendship with?
Maybe they will use the information for an easy one-click registration sent via a personal email invitation – verses just starting with the site pre-populated. If the site that is behind this is a big brand that you already know and trust, it could get legs?
I agree with everyone here. But like Vicki, I probably wouldn’t notice. However, I am just not sure I have the time for yet another social network.
Social Networking and niche social networking must have users in order to function, but where is the “lightbulb” moment where you discover a place that is full of people like you. Social Networks that are successful are that way because people want to be there, not because their name and info was purchased. Thanks for bringing this up. We will be sure to keep our eyes out for its release and will cover it on realestateyouropinion.com
Isn’t this what spock.com does. If I understand correctly spock collects their info from crawling the web and community submissions. I’m not sure how they prevent someone from claiming someone else’s identity or insure the information is accurate.
http://www.spock.com/do/profiles/index/Dustin-Luther%E2%80%94-Rdvla1Nj
John,
Yeah… Spock takes the idea to a whole new level in that they appear to be crawling the web in order to create a profile for individuals. I haven’t signed up to “claim” my account because I never liked the idea behind the site.
Spill it! Who are they?
All in good time!
…submit proposals for a special session at NAR in Orlando!
I have lots of ideas, but I think it could be particularly interesting to submit a proposal for a discussion along the lines of “learning from success.” My idea would be to show a few different examples of how people are generating leads by using (non-blogging) social networks like LinkedIn, Flickr, Facebook, YouTube, etc. and tie everything together in some general themes of what it takes to be successful.
I have enough good examples in my back pocket to put a presentation together, but I could ALWAYS use better examples… Are you an real estate agent or mortgage broker who has found a way to tap into a particular online community who wouldn’t mind sharing your story? Let me know!
Hey D!
Yeah, I have few in my front pocket
Shared a bunch golden nuggets at a blogging and social media class I taught along w/ Joe for LIBOR – The Long Island MLS in New York yesterday. Yes, there were some pretty loud oohs and ahhhhs from the audience…..
Rudy
Social Media Guru at Trulia
Dustin and Rudy, why don’t the three of us submit a panel proposal?
There are plenty of case examples to look at- most of them revolving around SEO techniques around communities or online word of mouth campaigns. Point2’s Facebook app would be a good example of a quick adoption item, as well as many of the realtors who have amassed 10k+ mailing lists on sites like Myspace. I’ve even seen a few pop-up on Meetup.com too.
Perhaps a brainstorm conference call. E-mail me at my new address if you want to catch up!
~Barry
Jeff: When I read Rudy’s comment earlier today, my initial reaction was… I wonder if we can do something together. And then, when I saw your name on a comment, I immediately though, I wonder if we can get Jeff involved!
The fact that you suggest that thought in the comment makes it all the better!
Barry: I’d love a brainstorm (and to find a bit more about what you’re up to these days!). Email is sent!
@ Dustin and Jeff – Let’s do it!
I just like sticking my head in here and watching you guys work together…
If you need anything from a guy in the trenches, just shout!
I would love to have some insight as well about social networking.
Tracey,
I’m hoping that Rudy, Jeff and I will be able to put something fun together or NAR, but that is still a ways off… Much sooner (end of May), Jim and I will be having another 4RealzEd event in Los Angeles!
Anyone else convinced that no one really knows what a social networking site is?
New Lease on Life for Friendster?
Among social-networking sites, Hitwise said, MySpace accounted for 80 percent of all visits, well ahead of second-place Facebook, at 7.6 percent.
YouTube overtakes MySpace:
The video sharing site has taken a 3.9% share of global internet visits a day compared with 3.35% for MySpace, according to internet analysis company Alexa.
I definitely think of YouTube as a social networking site.
Some of the better social networking sites for real estate professionals:
Ricardo Bueno 9:54 pm on June 5, 2008 Permalink |
People might disagree with me but LinkedIn is my all time favorite… Next is Twitter for it’s ability to connect you with people in a quick and unique way.
Dustin 10:05 pm on June 5, 2008 Permalink |
Ricardo,
I agree that LinkedIn is one of the best… And I’ve definitely got more than my fair share of leads through the site!
Graeme K. Brown 9:25 am on June 6, 2008 Permalink |
Dustin:
I stumbled upon your first Talkshoe round table and listened to the entire conversation. I think you’ve got a great thing going, and it is awesome to hear insight from top RE bloggers/pros. I was in and out yesterday as a guest because the topic was fascinating, but I was a bit overwhelmed with the amount of contributors. While it is obvious that each person brings tremendous insight, and unique perspectives, at time it was difficult to follow who was talking. Again, the information is invaluable, and the forum is perfect, I just wish I could have known who was speaking!
David G from Zillow.com 11:42 am on June 6, 2008 Permalink |
Ricardo -
FWIW, I totally agree with you! Even though fb now allows you to keep your your friends apart from your business associates I still cringe whenever I get a fb invite from someone I met a conference. LinkedIn is the professional network; it’s the appropriate invite to send a professional contact.
magnus 2:18 am on June 7, 2008 Permalink |
Dustin,
Your roundtable on social networks was a brilliant piece. Especially to hear more about MyDealBook since it is aimed for the commercial real estate industry.
[... http://www.thebeliever.se/smart-use-of-internet/2008/6/6/mydealbook-a-linkedin-for-the-commercial-real-estate-industr.html ...]
On the topic of which network to use when.
LinkedIn is for sure the number one (at least over here, Sweden that is) for your professional network. FB is great to keep track of friends, photosharing and so on.
Ricardo Bueno 4:32 am on June 8, 2008 Permalink |
“LinkedIn is the professional network; it’s the appropriate invite to send a professional contact.” — David G. from Zillow.com
I agree! If we’ve met in any type of professional setting, I’d much rather see the LinkedIn invite than the FB invite. Not that there’s anything wrong with FB… Let me put it this way, my LinkedIn contacts are more apt to receive a referral from me than my FB contacts.
Dustin 9:39 am on June 8, 2008 Permalink |
Graeme,
Thanks so much for the feedback! I can see how it could get a bit confusing unless we’re introducing ourselves before each time we talk. I’ll work on doing a better job of that next time!
SaraB 10:36 am on June 9, 2008 Permalink |
Thanks for organizing these roundtables! They are fantastic.
For the next one, I am going to make a point to research the speaker’s sites before the call, in an effort to better comprehend exactly what they are talking about.
Every time I hear someone talk about Twitter, I think to myself I need to become more involved. Then I always fizzle out. After listening to this call, I am ready to give it try (again…).
Dustin 10:45 am on June 9, 2008 Permalink |
Awesome Sara! Great idea… I may try to do a bit more of that research on my end as well!